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Let Me Be Mad — Ryan Gerard Episode 291

Let Me Be Mad — Ryan Gerard

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Ryan Gerard hates losing more than he likes winning — and he'll tell you that's a feature, not a bug. Or, as he said to his caddy, JP, recently: “Just, Let Me Be Mad.”

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, host Matt Considine and co‑host Dr. Kevin Moore (a.k.a. “The Professor”) sit down with Ryan Gerard (PGA Tour professional) to trace how a public course in Raleigh with no standing tee times built one of the tour's most interesting, unfiltered, and fierce competitors. Off a PGA Tour season with back-to-back runner-up finishes and a third at East Lake, Gerard is candid about what actually drives him, what he'd change about American golf, and how he keeps his head on straight when it isn't going his way.

The conversation dives into:
  • Why beating a friend seven straight times in a putting contest still wasn't enough — and how being the youngest, smallest kid at Wildwood Green built a competitor who "hates losing more than he likes winning"
  • The pitch for a lighted, low-cost par-3 "kids course" in every major North American city, sparked by a course he stumbled onto in Gullane, Scotland
  • Ted Scott's line about the best golf happening when expectations and reality line up — and how that explains the jump from irrational confidence to unconditional and real contention
  • Why his coach will always protect his self-described “graffiti on a rail car” swing instead of popular wholesale changes or overly smoothing things out
  • “Let me be mad”: the 20-second anger reset strategy we caught from Chasing Sunday, and why he thinks frustration is not a negative but one of his superpowers
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Chapters
0:00:00 The cold open: hating losing more than loving winning
0:00:55 Welcome to the Bag Drop
0:01:10 Did the Professor win his match at St. Andrews?
0:02:26 How St. Andrews club hosting actually works
0:07:40 Matt's marathon relay confession (and getting kicked off a muni)
0:11:03 Booking Ryan Gerard: the anti-homogenized golfer
0:11:47 Professor's Teaching: North Berwick, the oldest surviving course
0:13:46 Ad Read: Titleist Vokey SM11 wedges
0:15:30 Ryan Gerard joins the show
0:15:52 The Atlanta airport run-in with the Professor
0:17:42 The Scottish Open walk-and-talk that started it all
0:18:58 The Gullane kids course and golf's barrier to entry
0:22:23 Bringing Park Grind's lighted par-3 model stateside
0:23:21 Growing up at Wildwood: free reign of a public course
0:28:35 No standing tee times, unlimited junior golf
0:32:00 The pitch: a lighted par-3 course in every metro city
0:34:43 Violin, chess, and badminton club president
0:39:30 Where the competitive gene actually comes from
0:40:27 "I hate losing more than I like winning"
0:44:23 Ted Scott's rule: expectations meeting reality
0:48:15 Small gains, not a swing overhaul
0:54:05 The Mona Lisa and the graffiti on a rail car
0:55:31 Stealing Matt Wolff's bunker shot
1:08:19 "Let me be mad": the mental reset from Chasing Sunday
1:14:22 The Presidents Cup snub and process vs. outcome goals
1:20:34 Is competitive golf actually fun?
1:24:28 Takeaways and the upcoming deep dive series

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Creators and Guests

Matt Considine
Host
Matt Considine
Founder of NewClub and our resident feel player. Matt’s junior golf career led him to the University of Akron where he met our co-host. During his junior year, Matt Studied abroad in Ireland and discovered golf societies. Subsequent trips to Scotland fed his passion for the history, ideals, and culture of accessible, affordable, and sustainable golf, a concept he would later bring to the U.S. with NewClub. Known for his interviewing style, quick wit, and compelling storytelling, Matt brings thoughtful, reflective conversations to The Bag Drop. His professional journey before NewClub included multiple leadership positions in growth-stage startups, where he managed teams responsible for more than $250 million in revenue. Matt actively gives back to the game as a Board Member of the First Tee of Akron and past chair of the Evans Scholar Foundation. Proudly based in his hometown of Akron, Ohio, Matt finds inspiration in family life with his wife, their three children, and their golf dog, Gypsy.
The Professor
Host
The Professor
NewClub's Chief Ambassador and every golf sicko's favorite educator. Kevin is a thoughtful and deeply curious host. His studied, constructivist approach adds intellectual enrichment and balance to the show. As a professor of Math Education at the University of Georgia, Kevin's background in applied mathematics and cognitive psychology uniquely informs his insights on golf strategy and performance. Originally from Ohio, Kevin was a Division I collegiate golfer at the University of Akron, where his passion for understanding mathematical thinking began. After earning his doctorate from Arizona State University, he combined his analytical expertise with his love for golf by co-founding Golf Blueprint, an organization aimed at helping golfers optimize their games through data-driven strategies. Kevin enjoys balancing deep philosophical discussions with simple pleasures, such as indulging his sweet tooth, cheering on college football, and spending relaxed evenings with his friends, his wife, and their beloved dog, Nole.

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